Wow. That was brief? Let me briefly clear up my thinking.


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Posted by Wayne on November 29, 2001 at 20:57:30:

In Reply to: Re: I think you need to search the archives a bit more posted by MHK on November 29, 2001 at 18:18:59:

I think you are being way too sensitive and looking for attacks -- even where there are none. I was responding to a poster who was afraid we would lose access to your posts and I wanted to give him a longer-term perspective to the recent problems on this BBS. I do not understand why you find anything I post or email to or about you to contain personal attacks, but they are either not present or unintentional.

Now to what you posted to me:

I disagree that DIR divers are being too timid to post. They are posting and contributing to the discussions. As to the timidity factor of some posters, I was referring to your attacks on certain individuals and not referring to DIR at all. The only poster who regularly attacks DIR is GLnSD who is not taken seriously by anyone not on the Concord with him. .

And for the record, I do not blame you "for all the problems on this list". I cannot speak for seahunt or Chris (heck, I have never even met them). And you are right in saying that I do have a different standard for behavior with regard to you and Chris or Seahunt. With your experience and capability to do good for the dive community, and your record of leadership in areas such as funding our local chamber, you should have an extensive influence for good. But the benefit to our community from that potential influence is attenuated by your quick temper and personal attacks. I find that disappointing because I wish your influence was greater. I am not as interested in the influence of Chris on general diving; therefore I care less about how he gets his message out. So while I expect both of you to do good things, I am more frustrated when I see you throwing away influence than when I see Chris or others doing the same with their ability to influence the dive community.

As far as some apologies being acknowledged in my earlier post, I was not being disingenuous. I was pointing out to the poster that sometimes things have gotten hot and participants in the discussions have later cooled down and tried to notch up the civility. What I said was "Some like Chris, Ken Kurtis, MHK and I have cooled off and apologized for offending others." I used alphabetical order (C before K before M before W) and was hoping that the poster would realize that he might be stepping in while the battle was raging and not realize that détente had not set in yet.

In my original post I was not attacking you and did not mean to belittle you. But I see your response as you seizing the opportunity to denounce Chris, seahunt, and Ken -- without provocation.

And as to DIR and what it means and how it is taught, this thread was never about that in my opinion. And for the record I would like to take the DIR classes and continue to learn and progress. There are just so few recreation hours available these days. Someday I hope to do this, just like I look forward to when we will do the Casino Spy mission together.

I hope this clears up what I was trying to say and I hope you see this for what it is. It is not an attack on anybody.

Wayne



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