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Posted by SLANG on November 02, 2005 at 13:42:32:

In Reply to: John gets intellectually spanked.... posted by Dave on November 01, 2005 at 15:46:38:

Here's a quote of the opinion YOU cited, the exact page and paragraph you were referring to. How many people here think this supports Dave's position? Sorry counselor, misquoting opinions is the fastest way to piss off a Judge. Referring to law that doesn't say what you claim it does is not only stupid, but it will get you sanctioned:

"The second preliminary matter we must consider is the precise point in time at which a traffic violator is "arrested." CA(4)(4) HN5A police officer may legally stop a motorist to conduct a brief investigation when he entertains a rational suspicion, based on specific facts, that a violation of the Vehicle Code or other law may have taken place (see People v. Griffith (1971) supra, 19 Cal. App. 3d 948, 950-951, and cases cited), and the temporary restraint of the suspect's movements incident to that investigation will not ordinarily be deemed an arrest."

People v. Superior Court of Los Angeles County, 7 Cal. 3d 186, 200 (Cal. 1972)

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