In Reply to: My apologies... posted by Chris Knight on August 06, 2009 at 10:31:53:

Sustainable is capable of being maintained at a steady level without exhausting natural resources or causing ecological damage

For the past 19 years Cuc’s have been harvested above the harvest levels for the 19 years before that, which goes back to 1978 when records were first taken. The Cuc's lifecycle is 5-10 years. Thus, we are seeing 2 to 4 generations since the harvest attained the limits they are taking today. The Cuc’s harvest demonstrates sustainability.

Using the baseline of the pre-fishing era compared to the current state of fishing activities is simply wrong and the decrease in density does not imply collapse. Any pubescent gardener can figure out that the density of his crop will be less once picked. However, you cannot conclude from that the garden is over picked.

Appropriate science based conclusions dictate that when fishing pressure approaches the limits of sustainable densities then quotas, temporary closers, and replanting are warranted.

For a good example of this policy and how it has worked see http://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/wsfmp/index.asp
< Each year the White Seabass Scientific and Constituent Advisory Panel meets to consider if current management measures are providing adequate protection for the white seabass resource. Annual reviews are conducted so that any changes in management, or to the White Seabass Fishery Management Plan, can be considered by the Commission in accordance with the requirements of the Marine Life Management Act. The Advisory Panel meets with the Department each spring. The reports listed below reveal the findings from each review.>

Putting a permanent padlock on the beach is not an appropriate response. It is a knee jerk response to the sky is falling pundits.

The Alaska Cuc’s was, as stated in the previous post, given to show you the case for sustainability of Cuc’s exists from California to Alaska. Consider it extra credit, but don’t misquote it as being an inappropriate answer to your demand for one California example of sustainability – because that demand was also answered.

You claim of distortion of the facts is apparently based on the fact that you don’t agree with the facts.

• Where is the sincerity?

• Extra Credit? Chris Knight 12:46:16 08/06/09 (5)
  • Oh the morality of all... seldom seen slim 13:08:06 08/06/09 (4)
    • Thanks Chris Knight 13:47:16 08/06/09 (3)
      • two to tango seldom seen slim 20:48:43 08/07/09 (2)
        • A duck isn't a duck when it's a coot which is what that picture is of. Chris Knight 10:53:33 08/08/09 (1)
          • Done Say it aint so Cooter 14:19:45 08/08/09 (0)