Re: how I understand it

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Posted by MHK on April 09, 2001 at 14:36:18:

In Reply to: Re: how I understand it posted by Steve on April 09, 2001 at 14:25:54:

Posted by Steve on April 09, 2001 at 14:25:54:

"In other words, if your AIR II fails or leaks or freeflows you'll need to disconnect it."

Same thing if your power inflator free flows, disconnect it and fix the problem or just use manual inflation for the duration of the dive.

Why add a failure point when you don't need to???? Troy Bagwell posted something a while ago that quoted one of the magazines *tests* that showed that AIR II's fail a a greater rate than anyother gear. I dismissed that article figuring that AIR II just simply didn't buy enough advertisement in that particular magazine, but I've seen enough of them fail to recognize the problem. And as you said you've already had one fail so why add the failure point?????

Steve also wrote:

AIR II's are useless in an OOA scenario in an OE so how would you recommend a diver plan a dive in an OE, and if you like we can use the Yukon as an example?????"

I don't understand why you think this.

It's simple, when exiting an OE you don't have the luxury of exiting side by side. Any restriction that needs to be negotiated requires the OOA diver to lead, and do so by having a long hose in his mouth, are you telling me that in your scenario you have ample planning to solve for the OOA diver to lead and then you to follow while all the while breathing from the restricted AIR II?????

Steve again...
"The octo is the one to donate for non emergency air sharing. Why are you sharing air in a non-emergency "

I'm talking about a good buddy team will not ever have an OOA because of good gas management and monitoring. The non emergency sharing comes in when divers want to or need to extend deco or bottom times and have ample time to donate 7-9' hose attached to the octo.

Than the plan was a clusterf*ck...

As for testing something once a 146' that doesn't mean much to me, all it means is that you got lucky on the Moody..

I've tested everything I do a depths much deeper than 146', and others that I normally dive with generally go much deeper than I do and they all have the same set up as I do... It has been done countless times without incident. When you get to that point than we can discuss what works in the field..

I've done many dives were my first deco stop is in excess of 300' that's when you know something works....

I don't see where you've simplified the situation inasmuch as you've complicated it and added failure points needlessly...


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